Comments on: The Anime Blog Poll: Do You Want Mo’ MoÃ© in Your Anime?

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By: tayloryeow

tayloryeow — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:40:41 +0000

is it a problem if you have all of those moes??

By: Rachel

Rachel — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:55:13 +0000

@Somebody, I have no issue with sweet innocence. I have a huge issue with women who are portrayed as weak and mindless so male viewers can feel empowered. By empowered, I mean have protective feelings they actually believe they can fulfill towards moe women.

Being cute isn’t a bad thing, I personally love cute things, but it’s the undertone flowing through some cuteness that can be annoying or disturbing. Cute for cute’s sake is fine in small doses, but sexy cute is irritating, especially if it’s being rolled off the production to entertain fanboys.

By: xsabin

xsabin — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:55:49 +0000

i dont care,i just dont watch them,my favorite anime doesnt have any moe(there is a little girl in the group but she is not moe but she doesnt fight also,but she gets a important paper later and in the sequel she also gets to be more important so its not so bad)
ps:i am talking about hokuto no ken1 and hokuto no ken2(honestly the first one is better but that was because in the sequel i thought that the villains were not as easy to like as in the first hokuto)

By: Somebody

Somebody — Fri, 09 May 2008 05:36:53 +0000

If someone has already said this, I apologize. Did not read all the posts. Found this site by accident. Not a flame, just a statement. I think that people like the cute submissive girls because they are non-threatening. They’re not in your face, irritatingly bitchy women. They come across, in the anime I’ve seen that has them (WHICH IS ADMITTEDLY LIMITED) as people who enjoy life and who try and make other people happy. I’m not sure when that became such a bad thing in this world, or why it became irritating. Why must we constantly be threatened? Why must women be threatening? I admit that some of these will come across as objectified, but to be a person who is innocent, happy, fun-loving, and cute is not necessarily a bad thing. I don’t think that all women should be portrayed as bad-asses, nor should we suggest that no women, anywhere, need to be treated delicately.

By: Elfen Lied: Review at The Anime Blog

Elfen Lied: Review at The Anime Blog — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:02:59 +0000

[...] turns out Lucy has lost her memory and can only say ‘nyuu-nyuu’ and be all moÃ©. So Kouta and Yuka decide to take Lucy home where they care for her. During the course of the [...]

By: mochi

mochi — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:16:50 +0000

@Haesslich – I haven’t seen the DVD only episodes yet, but having read the synopses, I suspect that, as you say, there are probably moÃ©-moments in each. Since moÃ© is vaguely defined, there is a wide range of (sometimes conflicting) views of what it is. For me, I had mentioned the Skuld scene because it seemed spontaneous and gave me that little emotional hit which I associate with moÃ©. I suspect most would consider this scene as simply kawaii. In my opinion, most of what is considered moÃ© today feels contrived rather than spontaneous and for me, the latter is important. Because of this, most of what I consider moÃ© happens in a short amount of time…10 seconds or less…thus the term moÃ©-moment. The Revy example was an exception to this…probably because it was with a character I would not normally associate with moÃ©.

@Rachel – If you haven’t yet read it, I would suggest you read the article I mentioned. It attempts an academic approach to the subject. It falls into three sections. The first deals with the meaning of moÃ©. The second address the title issue…moÃ© as commodity. The third provides the author’s own views. As I had mentioned, I think it interesting even if I question some of the assertions. I believe the second section may address some of issues you have about why the studios produce so many anime with weak/almost helpless female characters in the name of moÃ©. Personally, I think that there is an additional reason for this. Even today, Japan is still rather a male dominant society. In manga/anime this is true as well. Most of the studio executives are men as are the staff…some exceptions would be CLAMP, Rumiko Takahashi, Izumi Aso (though now semi-retired from manga), and Kyoko Mizuki. This, plus the commercial aspect, probably colors their decisions on the content of many of their anime. I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but I would like to mention again that fan service does not always mean sexy/racy shots or moÃ©. Granted the term has almost become synonymous with those other terms, but the meaning is wider and is still practiced as such today. Some examples of past and near-current types of fan service include:

Trigun…Kuroneko-sama (the black cat) appears in most if not all the episodes
Love Hina…the example I mentioned in my previous post, plus, I believe in one of the specials (Spring or Christmas) Ken Akamatsu makes a cameo appearance
Aa!Megami Sama TV…Keichi’s motorcycle is an actual model produced by BMW…also, there was an episode which had toy cars of actual models.
Black Lagoon…many of the guns used are actual models…I couldn’t tell the difference between a Glock and a Walther, but some gun enthusiast colleagues assure me that this is the case
Cameos…in addition to the Love Hina example, one of the Gundam series (Turn A Gundam, I believe) shows Gundam models featured in other Gundam series; CLAMP likes to use characters from all their series in other series sometimes as cameos

Sorry again for the long post…sometimes I get carried away.

By: Rachel

Rachel — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:35:27 +0000

There must be a huge fan base for moe, – Haesslich, if studios are throwing it into anime like they’re doing now. You can only be pandering if there’s someone to pander to.

-Mochi, that’s some in depth dialog about moe! But since moe in it’s current amount can be considered fan service, I’d rather the studios ditch it all together. I don’t like to be forced to guess which anime is going to be mostly moe fan service and which anime relies on actual plot. Too much fan service is distracting and tasteless, to me. In comedies, fan service can be a good gag, but purely fan service based comedies annoy me.

By: Haesslich

Haesslich — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:29:24 +0000

They’ve gone a bit too much in the ‘moe’ direction over the past year or so (I tend to find dojikko-type characters ‘moe’ for the fact they tend to try hard and fail… and so, seem to need protection/affection/reassurance). Skuld… I wouldn’t have called ep 22 a ‘moe’ moment for her, although the DVD-only eps of 1st season had a few moe moments (when Skuld was coping with the whole grown-up ting and the possibility she MIGHT like Keiichi, or when Urd was dealing with the idea of talking to that boy).

By: Rachel

Rachel — Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:38:01 +0000

-Chris, I also prefer female characters to have a strong, willful, can-do attitude.

Everyone, male and female, has weak moments. My issue is the way the studios takes a weak moment and multiplies it to the point where it is no longer personal, but interactive. Sharing a bad moment with close friends is one thing; falling to the floor in front of strangers into a well posed heap, complete with artfully arranged tears, is another.

Male characters have weak moments, but it’s usually an internal struggle that, we the audience, are only aware of through his inner dialog. Why can’t female characters be created with more inner strength? Baffling…